Did God create the four seasons originally?

[Tea Ess]

I was wondering whether God designed the world to have four seasons. I know that each season offers amazing beauty, but I am not sure whether He created them when He made the rest of the world.

I know that in Eden, there was no death or pain. Having a cold winter would mean that either the plants and animals then had more resistance to the cold. Possibly, there was no winter then. If there was no rain until the Flood, then there wouldnt have been snow, or icicles. I also wonder then if there was a rotation then like we have now. I know that Earth does not circle the sun perfectly, it has an ellipse instead. Could it be that there originally was a perfectly cicrular orbit then? Also, when God made the earth, He separated the waters above and the waters below. There was no rain until the Flood. Possibly, the upper layer of water, most likely a vapor, or mist, insulated the earth, making it an even temperature, and sheltering us from the sun more.

I wonder, that when God gave us the rainbow, He gave us the result of physics that He had already made, that He revealed something that had already been set in place. Could this be the case with the seasons as well, in that we were not experiencing them, but the potential was there?

[Doll]

Wow, this is a really deep topic. I honestly don't know what I believe. (You should have added "I don't know" to the list of options)

I might bring up this question at AWANA this Tuesday, it sounds really interesting. I'll let you guys know what people say (if I am able to)

[Tea Ess]

That would be great if you can! I am really curious as to what other people think. And I could go a lot deeper than this. But, then I confuse myself and end up losing my train of thought.

[Nelson S.]

@T.S.
Check out Christian Creation scientist Dr. Kent Hovind.
He has some great info on Creation. Go to YouTube and search "Kent Hovind Creation Seminar 1"
He has 7 seminars and each are chalk full of info!

[Tea Ess]

Thank you, Ben.

[Doll]

So, I couldn't ask them at AWANA. It was a lot different than I remember from last year. The boy who I would primarily be asking apparently isn't coming to AWANA anymore. I will try to email him about it if you would like.

[Smile Awhile]

I would like. I sooooooooo don't know the answer.

[Tea Ess]

If you could do that God's girl, I would really appreciate it.

[Aaron Wiley]

The reason seasons exist isn't because the earth goes around the sun in an ellipse, it's because the axis it spins on is on an angle. If you believe in the Pangea theory though, it would make sense that most of the year the weather would be fairly consistent. Still hotter and colder parts of the year, but since the land was pretty central I don't think it would have ever gone to any huge extremes.

[Tea Ess]

Thank you for the correction.

Even with Pangea, there would still have been extreme temperatures in various locations around the globe, unless something had changed between then and now.

[Nelson S.]

Pangea doesn't exist. I'm sure you know that.
Some people believe the continents were once connected and that the continents floated away... that's silly! What do you get when you take the water out of the oceans? Dirt. There's dirt under the sea. They've always been connected.

[Doll]

Okay, one of my friends replied:

Wow! That is a good question! Really makes you think!! I think what you have there is right! The earth was probably all one climate before the flood! After the flood, there was no longer the “insulation” above, hence our seasons. Ooo your theory about the earth’s orbit is cool! I have never thought about that!! I would have to do a little “homework” to answer that one! I definitely think you are right on with the rainbow and seasons. The potential, I believe, was always there! God knew what was going to happen before He even created the earth! He knew what conditions we would need after the flood! It is all in His plan! We may never know for sure, but we are in His hands. He has created a marvelous earth for us to live!

This is just my opinion.

Hope it helps!

[Tea Ess]

Thanks, God's girl! That was really nice of you to do that.


Uh Oh. Aaron just pointed out that the seasons are caused by the tilt of the axis, not the orbit of the earth. I suppose that my point still stands about the original orbit possibly being perfectly circular.

[Doll]

Oh, the girl who wrote the above post also sent me this which her boyfriend sent her:

Genesis 1:14-19

And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,[a] and for days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening and there was morning, the fourth day.

Genesis 8:22
“While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
Cold and heat,
Winter and summer,
And day and night
Shall not cease.”

[Aaron Wiley]

Pangea doesn't exist. I'm sure you know that.
Some people believe the continents were once connected and that the continents floated away... that's silly! What do you get when you take the water out of the oceans? Dirt. There's dirt under the sea. They've always been connected.

It's not like it's as ridiculous as you're making it out to be Ben, Pangea is a perfectly relevant theory regardless of how silly you can try to make it sound. I'm not saying that's definitely how it all went down, but it is at least worth it to consider. There's a lot of evidence to support it, and if all you're bringing to the table to debunk it is that it sounds stupid, then you might as well be trying to prove The Big Bang is the way the earth was created because believing some guy in the sky created the whole thing be speaking just sounds stupid.

[Nelson S.]

You might not agree with this but, here's where I got my info:

There is a longer version of this little bit of info. Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=678tes82T88
Yes that video is pretty long, but it has a ton of info that I'm sure you guys would enjoy.

I took off the video, because it was taking up space.

[Aaron Wiley]

that video didn't really seem to "disprove" anything, he just calls it ridiculous because the textbook version was simplified. I'm not going to say that the Pangea theory is definitely accurate, but given all of the information I've been given on it, it doesn't really seem to have a lot of flaws. Pangea doesn't really have a lot to do with macro-evolution either, so I'm not sure why you sent me to an anti-evolution video.

[Nelson S.]

Oh, okay... never mind. I don't know how I could explain it. I'll just drop it.