Is it wrong for women to wear pants?
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Business suits?
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You do understand business suits are tailored to fit the gender form, correct? Business suits, whether it be pants or a skirt, are just meant to be a sign of professionalism. In bible times women had to cover their heads, and men often covered theirs as well. Why is being uncovered okay now? Why was it okay in the 1800s? Why does the 1800s define all culture? There were women in over the shoulder cloths in Africa at the same time there were women in giant skirted dresses in America and England. Was that wrong? Culture will always be different, and always be changing. One custom can't define a world's individuality.

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Sure. However, it can be confusing.
Do you know that men becoming more passive and feminine while women becoming more stronger and masculine is helping uni-sex culture. (source: James Dobson)
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I've said this before, talk to people and get to know them if you're confused. It's only confusing if you want to judge people from a distance. It shouldn't be a problem if you actually talk to people.
I don't think that's true, I think 1800s Western Europe gender roles are being broken down in our society but as Sam said, why should that one time period in one specific area of the world set the universal standard?
I don't think that's true, I think 1800s Western Europe gender roles are being broken down in our society but as Sam said, why should that one time period in one specific area of the world set the universal standard?
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Because what was the reason women started to wear pants?
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Because they're comfortable and practical.
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Yes, because they were comfortable, but also it became a fashion to wear men's clothes & women wore their husband's clothes - which I don't think is right (personally).
(no offense)
(no offense)
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I'm pretty sure the women didn't wear their husbands pants
Especially since they'd have different sized pants. I really don't think that happened. But is that your main objection? That women are wearing their husbands clothes?

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I would like to point out for the record that the history behind something, like women wearing pants, doesn't make it bad in the here and now—after all, some Christian traditions started out as pagan ceremonies.
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I suppose I'm wrong for wearing basket ball shorts from the boy's department cause walmart doesn't make them for girls? xD Well, the sort of do, but the ones for girls have so little to them that you might as well not wear shorts at all. =| I prefer my knee length shorts that I can get messy in without worrying about coverage. =p

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Wikipedia: During World War II, some women in England wore their husband's clothes to save money. Not my main objection.Eleventh Doctor wrote:I'm pretty sure the women didn't wear their husbands pantsEspecially since they'd have different sized pants. I really don't think that happened. But is that your main objection? That women are wearing their husbands clothes?
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Wikipedia is not a source. The citations next to the fact pattern, usually marked with a set of brackets and a number, are sources.John Henry wrote:Wikipedia: During World War II, some women in England wore their husband's clothes to save money.
That's just it—to save money. I'm not sure how much you know about the Second World War era, but it was a desperate time for everyone, and especially in places like Britain, which at one point was among the last European strongholds of resistance against the Nazis. Of course the women wore their husband's clothes to save money—for many of them, not to get too morbid, the clothes weren't going to be used again otherwise, and their money had to go to more important things than upholding some standard of dress. That aside, many women in World War II worked in factories, where as near as I can tell, wearing a skirt simply isn't practical.
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John Henry, I'm still trying to understand what your main objection to women wearing pants is? Because right now as near as I can tell your main objections is that they aren't following the general fashion of Western Europe from about 1700-1800. Because you've made it clear you don't think we should be following the fashion of Old Testament Israel and that the fashion of Asia and the Middle East when women could wear pants was fine then but not now for some reason?
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Yes, pants - fine but underwear length shorts - definitely not!Samantha14 wrote:I suppose I'm wrong for wearing basket ball shorts from the boy's department cause walmart doesn't make them for girls? xD Well, the sort of do, but the ones for girls have so little to them that you might as well not wear shorts at all. =| I prefer my knee length shorts that I can get messy in without worrying about coverage. =p
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I don't think it says anywhere in the Bible that Women should not wear pants?
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I've found that most pairs of Nike shorts actually do the job fine—but to each their own.Samantha14 wrote:Well, the sort of do, but the ones for girls have so little to them that you might as well not wear shorts at all.

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My walmart doesn't sell Nike shorts D:TigerShadow wrote:I've found that most pairs of Nike shorts actually do the job fine—but to each their own.Samantha14 wrote:Well, the sort of do, but the ones for girls have so little to them that you might as well not wear shorts at all.

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THIS. IS UNACCEPTABLE.Samantha14 wrote:My walmart doesn't sell Nike shorts D:TigerShadow wrote:I've found that most pairs of Nike shorts actually do the job fine—but to each their own.Samantha14 wrote:Well, the sort of do, but the ones for girls have so little to them that you might as well not wear shorts at all.
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For T+T AWANA games, the kids have to wear pants, as opposed to shorts (not jeans, though).
Mostly I saw windpants.
Mostly I saw windpants.

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With all due respect to the SS Members, I do not approve because the clothes of the sexes are not to be confused. Yes, you'll say that in our present society pants are both for men and women. I ask, what 'bout skirts? Why are they only worn by women? (not robes I'm talking). Crossdressing sometimes reminds me of a video I saw of Steven Howard and his Mississipi KKK.
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And pants made for women are clearly made in a way that indicates a woman is wearing them; the shape of the legs and the cut for the hips are so obviously different from those of men that you'd have to be actively ignoring their differences to say that women's pants are indistinguishable from men's. As to why men don't wear skirts, I think Eleventh will be able to phrase that in a more nonawkward way than I could.John Henry wrote:I do not approve because the clothes of the sexes are not to be confused. Yes, you'll say that in our present society pants are both for men and women. I ask, what 'bout skirts? Why are they only worn by women?
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