Liz Horton

[Pound Foolish]

What is a girl?
Everyone seems to have their own idea. A woman should be powerful. A woman should be feminine. A woman should... it all varies for girls depending on what kind of Mom they have. Society wants to mold them into whatever people have in mind. Talk THIS way. Dress THIS way. Some choose to give in, and so sometimes have their lives ruined, or, if they handle it right, actually stay pure and enjoy themselves. Some become fiery anti-media girls, screaming that our culture is all lies and all women should unceasingly strive in every shirt and pair of pants for a variously defined thing called modesty. We males, solemnly Christened "guys" by the girls, can't claim to understand this, but at least we can claim to be confused by it.
Society seems to continually trying to reinvent the female identity. (Just what's wrong with girls that movies and new political ideas keep coming forth do do this, I have no idea.) Sometimes the results are awful. However....
In children's media, we see the girls being given a ferocious makeover. We've forgotten the days Princess Leia representing her gender with kick-butting was an original breath of fresh air. Grabbing and obvious examples are the reinventing of the fairytale girl. Disney just keeps making wilder and wilder girls, until we see Rapunzel, a whooping blonde who femininely wears pink and sings yet slams her loving prince over the head. Pixar has its first female protagonist, causing no small stir, and sure enough she a fairytale-princess-weapons-expert. And, this year, we saw TWO reincarnations of Snow White, both taking fairy land's most gentle princess and turning her into a warrior.
And THAT is what being a person can be. Warrior is just a word for a do-er. You can be a warrior in real battle, or a warrior for peace feeding the hungry. And isn't a Christian a soldier for Christ? It doesn't matter there if you're a boy or girl, its our calling as humans.
And Odyssey...
There's the overly feminine Jimmy-loving Jessie Morrales. There's representations of girls who work hard to be sweet, kind, and feminine, like the wonderful Mandy.
And then there's girls like Emily, Sarah Pratchett... and Liz, who came before them both, who was around when people were still talking about Princess Leia. Liz Horton is feisty. She is who she wants to be. And she likes it. She is the prelude to characters like the English daredevil Sue and the aforesaid Sarah.
It sometimes gets on people's nerves, how outspoken she is, as with Emily. But Liz only changes what she perceives as faults. She knows who she is. She stays who she is. I have long had a soft spot for Liz, and always will. But... what do YOU think?
Hi all, it's Jeremiah, better known to most of you as Pound Foolish. I don't blame you if you've skipped down to this part of my almost TS worthily long post. I have finally done it: I've actually made a subject about a character in the character area. So, what are YOUR thoughts on Liz?

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

Wow, what a great topic! Yes, you are like T.S. in many ways PF, even if you have different opinions. I enjoy Liz as long as she doesn't get too mean. (Ex: You Win Some, You Lose Some, Slumber Party)

[Pound Foolish]

Thank you, Mr. Thinker! She can be too mean. But she changes. Liz gradually matured out of the brattyness she exhibited in those episodes. That's part of my point. She "only changes what she perceives as faults", as I said. So, enjoyed the news on your blog today. However, in it, you said you were making another USS Response. When is that coming?

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

Thank you, Mr. Thinker! She can be too mean. But she changes. Liz gradually matured out of the brattyness she exhibited in those episodes. That's part of my point. She "only changes what she perceives as faults", as I said. So, enjoyed the news on your blog today. However, in it, you said you were making another USS Response. When is that coming?

It just came. It, as usual, has a rather interesting comment from you!

[Pound Foolish]

My poem is simply charming, eh what?

[Suzy Lou Foolish]

Goodness, this is quite the topic, Pound Foolish! But gosh, I don't even know what to say about Liz. To be honest, I admire her. I love her determination and strength. True, she had her flaws...but she was an amazing character, nonetheless. All I have to say- BRING LIZ BACK TO ODYSSEY! Oh, and your poem by the way...pure brilliance, indeed!:D

[Pound Foolish]

Nicely put, my dear Suzy Lou. And, yes, I saw your earlier comments on my incredible poem. I think I had divine inspiration. One question: did you actually read that whole post??? It was certainly long even for me...

[Suzy Lou Foolish]

That you did, it was amazing!:D
And yes, I read the entire post and still don't know exactly what to think/say about it all...lol!

[Tea Ess]

Liz is a unique character, that's what I like about Odyssey. They rarely have just an ordinary stereotypical person, they include drastic, quirky characters with a touch of realness to them. I admire Liz's spunk and liveliness, she is quick to stand up for a friend, but also jumps head first into situations without fore thought. I enjoyed Liz's transition from a self serving person. However, I wish that AiO had focused on this a little more. Liz would make jumps without us getting to see what happened inbetween. I also wish that we heard more from her bratty friends. It would have been nice to see her have to confront them about her and their behavior.

I also noticed that Liz has a bit of Connie in her. Maybe if she had continued longer, we could have found out.

[Pound Foolish]

Perhaps... do you mean her extreme emotions? How much she speaks out? Or maybe that she started growing some ability to comfort? (in Lost by a Nose, for example.) Well, thank you for FINALLY commenting! And I'd say you DEFENITELY added to the conversation. That's whey I wanted you to comment, you always do.

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

Liz fans unite! I am officially starting another character club! (I know, I've started a lot of clubs, but some of them have been disbanded.) The purpose of this club is to love Liz: her character, her voice, her lines, even her meanness! And if anyone starts a Liz Stinks! club you've had it! I know PF will be eager to join this one, but which other members will I have? Liz lovers, come here! We need to show the world that Liz is the best female kid character EVER! So join today!

[Wretched Sinner]

I'll join

[Suzy Lou Foolish]

Do I have to agree that she's the best female character to join?

[Wretched Sinner]

Liz: What do you think of this sweater, Jared?

Jared: enn...makes you look fat.

Liz: HEY! YOU CAN'T SAY THAT!

^epicest quote ever on AIO

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

No, suzy, you don't. And, I know Wooton! Read my review of Split Ends to see what I think of that quote!

[Wretched Sinner]

No, suzy, you don't. And, I know Wooton! Read my review of Split Ends to see what I think of that quote!

I know. I've read it before.

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

Alright, everyone, the official theme song for The Liz Fan Club is in the process of being written! Here it is (part of it, at least):

Gee whiz!
I love Liz!
I wish she would get in show biz!
I wonder if she's a Miss, Mrs., or Ms.?

It's a work in progress.

[Wretched Sinner]

Alright, everyone, the official theme song for The Liz Fan Club is in the process of being written! Here it is (part of it, at least):

Gee whiz!
I love Liz!
I wish she would get in show biz!
I wonder if she's a Miss, Mrs., or Ms.?

It's a work in progress.

Liz and Jared should come back in an episode. they'd be married. Liz would be a doctor and Jared would be an FBI agent

[Suzy Lou Foolish]

Haha! I would have totally smacked Jared if I was Liz! Guys, NEVER call or say a girl looks/is fat. Even if she's the size of an elephant and twice the weight, with a quadruple chin. Its never necessary.=P Mr. Thinker, Your review was really good, by the way.
I think I'll join.

[ArnoldtheRubberDucky]

Yay! Another member! Have you ever been tempted to walk up to a random woman and say, "So when's the baby due?"