Ask Countesss

[Mandy]

but you need to be able to drive places, I'm stressed out for you, are you going to be ok? You might have to use your own money for gas since you used your parent's for ice cream. I am really glad you have a lot of food though!

Hey don't tell her that. She has to use her own money for the Bible School we're going to this fall.

MF what is your favorite music to listen to besides Hallal?

[HomeschoolCowgirl]

Have you ever listened to The Messiah? (other than the Hallelujah Chorus)

[Tarol]

Not like anyone cares, but here's a link about wine... http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/does ... cohol.html I think it definitely is a problem that actual wine was served at Jewish weddings. Not just non- water/milk. But, anywho....

Is being Worldy a sin?

What if my view on "being Worldy" is different then yours? Am I still sinning?

[TigerShadow]

I think it definitely is a problem that actual wine was served at Jewish weddings. Not just non- water/milk. But, anywho....

Not to turn this Q&A thread into the Great Alcohol Debate™, but considering the fermentation process that goes into making wine, it was probably one of the healthier options to drink at the time—it's not like they had pasteurization or solid water filtration systems.

[sing]

I think it definitely is a problem that actual wine was served at Jewish weddings. Not just non- water/milk. But, anywho....

Not to turn this Q&A thread into the Great Alcohol Debate™, but considering the fermentation process that goes into making wine, it was probably one of the healthier options to drink at the time—it's not like they had pasteurization or solid water filtration systems.

^^^ I was about to say that.

[HomeschoolCowgirl]

What would you get with $10?
What do you wish people knew about you?
What do you wish others understood better? (about you or the world in general)
What do you find most annoying in others?
What do you like more about your online friends than your IRL friends?
What is the worst that could happen??

[Helios]

Your parents left you guys ALONE in the house for two weeks? WITH ICE CREAM???

Can I come over and play?

[Miss Friendship]

What type of food is your least favorite?

Anything involving squash or onions.

but you need to be able to drive places, I'm stressed out for you, are you going to be ok? You might have to use your own money for gas since you used your parent's for ice cream. I am really glad you have a lot of food though!

We will be fine. After all its not like we are utterly alone on a dessert. And even if we were, I shouldn't be worried.

Is your opinion on beat boxing any different than your opinion on drums?

Well, to be completely honest here, I do listen to songs with beat boxing. But I do think that beat boxing and drums are basically the same thing. If you aren't allowed one, it's hypocritical to listen to the other. I do have a few songs with drums, but I would prefer beat boxing because it generally seems softer than drums. Although as I said, it's basically the same.

MF what is your favorite music to listen to besides Hallal?

Hmm, not sure. I'm really liking Maccabeats right now. Although it is a bit on the wild side. *squints at the SS who is being a bad influence*

Have you ever listened to The Messiah? (other than the Hallelujah Chorus)

Might have, recognize the name. But I don't recall any particular songs.

Is being Worldy a sin?

How do I answer that? Here is a verse: 1 John 2:15

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

So interpret that how you like.

What if my view on "being Worldy" is different then yours? Am I still sinning?

Did I say you were sinning in the first place? What is your view of being worldly? I'd be interested in hearing it. I actually can't remember anyone telling me what they thought "being worldly" was like.

Not to turn this Q&A thread into the Great Alcohol Debate™, but considering the fermentation process that goes into making wine, it was probably one of the healthier options to drink at the time—it's not like they had pasteurization or solid water filtration systems.

That's a new thought...

What would you get with $10?

I would get whatever I need at the moment. Heh. Right now, maybe gas.

What do you wish people knew about you?

That even if I consider them "worldly" or "liberal" or that they hold to "twisted beliefs" I still like them a lot, and nothing will change that.

What do you wish others understood better? (about you or the world in general)

That the Kingdom of God is a real Kingdom that's much more involved and greater than usually believed to be. And it takes your all to be able to stay inside the Kingdom.

What do you find most annoying in others?

Someone who is never serious, and never looks beyond their own little world.

What do you like more about your online friends than your IRL friends?

They understand and accept me regardless of my extremely offensive beliefs.

What is the worst that could happen??

Something happen where God is not in control...which never will, so nothing. Well, I would hate if someone took away the SS from me.

Your parents left you guys ALONE in the house for two weeks? WITH ICE CREAM???

They left us. They did not leave ice cream.

Can I come over and play?

No. I happen to want the house to be standing when they get back.

[Tarol]

Did I say you were sinning in the first place?

I was just wondering if being Worldy is a sin...and you still haven't really answered me. I want your opinion on what that verse is saying.

What is your view of being worldly? I'd be interested in hearing it. I actually can't remember anyone telling me what they thought "being worldly" was like.

Well, I know you don't like them, but I used BibleHub to look up Biblical commentaries on 1 John 2:15. Now, I looked through most of the commentaries on this verse, and, although some were kind of confusing to decipher, I found a few interesting points, which I would, mostly, agree with. Please keep in mind, I was looking at exegetical commentaries, meaning scholars that were looking at the actual original words, not exactly the theology of the verse (or something like that...)

1. First of all, it's important to read the context of the verse. Here is the full verses that seem to be connected with this verse in 1 John 2:

15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them.
16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.
17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.

It seems that in verse 16, John qualifies what the world is: "The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life."

2. Second, the word for "world" has different meanings. Here is one commentary that briefly explains this word:

It is most important to distinguish the different meanings of κόσμος in the New Testament. Connected with κόμειν and comere, it means

(1) ornament (1 Peter 3:3);

(2) the ordered universe, mundus (Romans 1:20);

(3) the earth (John 1:9);

(4) the inhabitants of the earth (John 3:16);

(5) all that is alienated from God, as here and frequently in St. John's writings. The things of the world are not those things in the world which may become objects of sinful affection, such as wealth or honour, still less such as scenery or physical objects. St. John is not condemning a love of those material advantages which are God's gifts, nor of nature, which is God's work. He is forbidding those things the love of which rivals and excludes the love of God - all those immoral tendencies and pursuits which give the world its evil character. The world κόσμος is order; the things in the world are the elements of disorder - those things which arise from each man making himself the center of the world, or of some little world of his own creation. These rival centers clash with one another, and also with the one true Center. All this St. John forbids.

So, as you can see, even the word "world" means, basically, what John qualifies it to mean.

3. With that said, I believe that World is what John said it is: "The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life." Now, as I look at this, I don't see how long hair, or rock music can really apply. Long hair may cause others to lust, but short hair may do the same. Rock music can cause someone to be proud, but, as Sing has pointed out recently, it can also encourage others. I don't mean to pick on your beliefs about the World, but...how can you say a man is "Worldy" if he has long hair, when I don't see how that can apply. How about you say he is not following the Bible, according to your tradition/interpretation? The verse about men with long hair says nothing about this meaning he is worldy. (1 Corinthians 11:13-16

Do with this as you will, but I hope it helps. I just did this quick study right now, so if it may be confusing or even a bit wrong, that may be possible.

Oh, and by the way, I read about about the Puritans a while ago, and even them (being super strict) drank alcohol for the same reason TigerShadows said. The water systems was also their sewer, so drinks from fruit were the only thing that was clean or healthy.

[Miss Friendship]

I was just wondering if being Worldy is a sin...and you still haven't really answered me. I want your opinion on what that verse is saying.

Well my personal belief is that we all will have a degree of something "worldly" about us that isn't neccessarily sin, but that we should continue to purge that attitude from us as we grow in Christ.

Now, as I look at this, I don't see how long hair, or rock music can really apply.

When did I say long hair was "worldly" on men?

Ok, to go with your definition of the world "the lust of flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life" we can easily find out how Rock music is "worldly." Already most of you have admitted to listening to music that is not necessarily Christian lyrics. Not bad, but neither is it specifically growing you onward in your relationship with God. It's just "music" that you listen to....why? Because it's pleasing to the flesh, we listen to music because we feel better by it. So already, an overdose of any music (bad or otherwise) solely for the purpose of pleasure or entertainment is "of the world." And this can include Christian songs.

Oh, and by the way, I read about about the Puritans a while ago, and even them (being super strict) drank alcohol for the same reason TigerShadows said. The water systems was also their sewer, so drinks from fruit were the only thing that was clean or healthy.

Thanks for the info.

Do with this as you will, but I hope it helps. I just did this quick study right now, so if it may be confusing or even a bit wrong, that may be possible.

It made sense. Thanks.

[Helios]

I am not Jimmy Barclay, I will not burn down your house when I come over to play. I might knock out a few support beams...

So if they didn't leave ice cream, where did you get it from?

[sing]

What type of food is your least favorite?

Anything involving squash or onions.

Is your opinion on beat boxing any different than your opinion on drums?

Well, to be completely honest here, I do listen to songs with beat boxing. But I do think that beat boxing and drums are basically the same thing. If you aren't allowed one, it's hypocritical to listen to the other. I do have a few songs with drums, but I would prefer beat boxing because it generally seems softer than drums. Although as I said, it's basically the same.

You listen to beat boxing? Suh-weet! What do you listen to? I'm always looking for more a cappella. Ever heard of rescue? they are based in Portland and are awesome!

[Miss Friendship]

So if they didn't leave ice cream, where did you get it from?

That was the problem. We had to buy it using our money.

@Sing Yes, I have heard Rescue. My friend has some of their music. Lately I have been listening to the Maccabeats. Also look up David Wesley. He sings accapella and really well.

[aragtaghooligan]

You listen to halal music? Do you know what halal means?

[Miss Friendship]

You listen to halal music? Do you know what halal means?

Not "halal." It's "hallal." And yes, I know what halal means.

[Blitz]

Do you believe it would be right to hypothetically kill a zombie?

[Tarol]

When did I say long hair was "worldly" on men?

I'm sorry about that...I went on a tangent about long hair for no reason... I meant to say "for example," before that.... Anyway, when I asked you about marrying a man with long hair, you said you couldn't because he was "worldly." Unless you were completely judging him simply because of his long hair....

Ok, to go with your definition of the world "the lust of flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life" we can easily find out how Rock music is "worldly." Already most of you have admitted to listening to music that is not necessarily Christian lyrics. Not bad, but neither is it specifically growing you onward in your relationship with God. It's just "music" that you listen to....why? Because it's pleasing to the flesh, we listen to music because we feel better by it. So already, an overdose of any music (bad or otherwise) solely for the purpose of pleasure or entertainment is "of the world." And this can include Christian songs.

But that says nothing about Rock music itself. Basically, I would say the "Worldly" part of music is the act of listening to too much music (as you have stated before) not the actual music itself.

Have you heard of "Jesus Calling"?

Have you seen Veggietales?

[Mandy]

Last movie you watched?

Would you be willing to lie in court to protect a friend from life in prison?

Do you think children should be protected from unhappiness@

[Helios]

Which AIO character do you identify with most strongly? (and I'm sure it's not Jared... )

[Miss Friendship]

Do you believe it would be right to hypothetically kill a zombie?

What exactly is a zombie? If its not a real person, then if it exists its likely a demon. And you couldn't kill a demon so...

Anyway, when I asked you about marrying a man with long hair, you said you couldn't because he was "worldly."

I guess I did.

Have you heard of "Jesus Calling"?

Yes, and I do not recommend the book.

Have you seen Veggietales?

30 seconds of it.

Last movie you watched?

Christy.

Would you be willing to lie in court to protect a friend from life in prison?

Nope. Lying is always wrong.

Do you think children should be protected from unhappiness@

No, but neither should they have it forced upon them. (My answer is sooo original)

Which AIO character do you identify with most strongly? (and I'm sure it's not Jared... )

Heh. Heh. Why not? Hmmm, maybe Bernard or Katrina.