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A Smouse Family Christmas

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 10:09 am
by CEMS
Vincent has a voice! We finally get to hear Vincent speak. And in the same episode with his first audible appearance we get to hear about his home life. Vincent is such a sweet kid! The voice actor for him was great, Vincent sounded so sad near the end. I really felt bad for him.

I think they wrote his mom's character really well, making her skater brained and absent minded while still being a caring mom. And they made all the characters likable, even the ones causing issues, by showing that they were only trying to do what was best for her in Vincent.

This was one of the few Jay episodes where Jay wasn't doing something wrong. In fact, he was a protagonist in this. I hope we get some episodes with Jay and Vincent together where Vincent isn't mad the whole time so we can see there dynamic as friends. I loved the part when he was defending Vincent and his Aunt. Actually getting a little mad at Zoe for judging them so quickly. It isn't often that Zoe messed up and Jays the one to scold her.
Zoe thought Jay's crush comments from the past were sweet, but If they weren't friends now she'd think they were creepy. I really hope they didn't have them become friends just so they could give them a healthy friendship and start another romance. I'm actually taking comfort in the fact that Jay (at the moment) isn't a Christian, and hoping they wouldn't have Zoe ignore the Bibles commands not to get romantically involved with a nonbeliever (Unlike Ryan).Not to mention, she's still, somehow, in middle school.

PS: Does anyone else feel like Ryan would not have dated Jules when she was a nonbeliever?

Re: A Smouse Family Christmas

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2025 2:47 pm
by Bob
I thought about analyzing this episode point by point earlier, and still might, but I spent a lot of time commenting on Jay and Zoe in this post and don't want to make it longer right now. Just one quick comment on Vincent's voice - he sounds a lot like Tucker Chandler. I don't think it could be him, since I don't remember hearing his name in the credits, but it's a remarkable resemblance.

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Technically, I'd say that Jay did do one thing significantly wrong in that he lied about Zoe's history with Christmas. He's also a little rude with others at other times. But I do think it's fair to say that he's generally a protagonist in this episode.

I think this episode reveals something of a clannish side in Jay which wasn't fully explored before. One telling point: he has no problem criticizing or poking fun at his relatives himself, and does so several times; I don't think any of them escape this episode without some kind of comment. But whenever Zoe says something that could be taken as negative, he pushes back. Finally they have an argument (one of the bigger ones I've heard between them, though I haven't heard every episode they're both in) when she volunteers her analysis of his aunt and cousin's dynamic.

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The ship is difficult to comment on as thoroughly here as it likely deserves. Although it is possible for boys and girls to be close friends without it being romantic, I think it is very difficult, especially if they've already been in some kind of relationship or had some kind of feelings, at least one for the other. While Jay clearly repented of his out-of-control comments, and has sincerely made an effort to change, the fact of the matter is that by virtue of ongoing close proximity to one another, they intuitively seem likely to end up in a relationship at some point in the future. (Or at least, from my admittedly limited experience, that's what I would expect in real life. It can be different when your relationships are being planned by writers.)

The spiritual incompatibility is the big issue in a hypothetical relationship, although it is also an issue in their current friendship. Unfortunately, the pattern here seems fairly similar to that which many Christian girls experience. There's a bright, vibrant girl who seems committed to and grounded in her faith, but then she meets some young man with certain characteristics. (The particular traits may vary a little. In Jay's case, he's funny, smart, and endearing.) The girl likes him, so she spends a lot of time with him even though he has issues. For his part, he likely recognizes the girl has qualities that are really worthwhile and may strive to do better for her, at least while she's around to see it. But wanting to live up to the girl is not the same as wanting to live for Christ. Much of the time, in this kind of situation, when it progresses, their relationship ends up broken somehow, by which time the woman is already thoroughly backslidden.

If Zoe were a girl in my church, I admit I'd be deeply concerned; the risk of losing her seems high. Besides that, I believe that Christian youth should have other Christian youth as close friends, and also that it is not a good idea for a girl and a boy to be together alone at all, much less often. All of this together seems like the perfect conditions for things to go wrong. The only reason why things are different here is because we know that it's a Focus on the Family audio drama and that the writers wouldn't let anything like that happen. But I have to admit it doesn't seem like it sets the best example.

Perhaps a skewed sample of episodes also throws things off. We get the idea that Zoe and Jay are close friends and constantly together because many of their episodes happen to feature the other person. It might not seem as much of a red flag if we knew that, in fact, Zoe spent the vast majority of her time with other people doing other things, and that the people chronicling her life just happened to pick the 1% of it that Jay was in, because of its dramatic potential.

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On the age range, I'd have to look at my timeline studies and do more research to be sure of this point. As I recall, Matthew was about 10 when he was first introduced. Olivia is older than Matthew, but not dramatically older; no more than a couple of years. In GRC, a relatively short time later, Buck was 14. In "King of My Heart", Buck was 17ish and about the same age as Ryan, Jules and Cooper. So, at this point in time, Matthew is probably 14 years old. Depending on Matthew's age, we could surmise that Olivia is somewhere from 15-16. It seems reasonable to guess, since they are best friends and in all of the same places, that Zoe is a similar age.

For Jay's age, we know he's in the high school range now (he was going to run an event in 'Alibis', where all of the other youth are high schoolers, and they apparently regularly interact socially, so it only seems reasonable to assume that he is their age, or at least close). This also would seem to push Zoe's age to the higher end, because 17 and 14 seems like too much of a gap. If Jay is 17 and Zoe is 16 or a mature 15, though, it works.

In the past, we might have had the flexibility to juggle episodes around a bit in the timeline to make them fit, including moving newer episodes to before older episodes, but this is going to be difficult now because newer episodes tend to refer to the events of previous ones in a fashion that suggests a linear progression.