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Does God Hate Sin?
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:50 am
by Miss Friendship
Actually yes. Some don't know, others have a very twisted view of what you believe, and others may know what you believe but have not heard it in a kindly manner at all and are very reactionary toward you. For example, they'll say "God loves gays! Stop judging us!" So its hard to impress upon them that yes, God loves you, but He doesn't love your sin.etc. Somehow that thought doesn't make sense to them.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:48 am
by Eleventh Doctor
Why does God hate their sin?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:51 am
by Miss Friendship
Do you believe He doesn't?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:28 am
by Eleventh Doctor
Do you? If you do, why?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:41 am
by Miss Friendship
God hates all sin. Not just theirs, but yes, it includes the sin of homosexuality. Why? Sin is an outward act of disobedience to God.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:44 am
by Eleventh Doctor
So God can't stand outward acts of disobedience to Him?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:47 am
by Miss Friendship
Maybe it would be better said, God can't stand the damage we are doing to our souls by doing Satan's will instead of His own. He has our best interest in mind, and yes as part of his nature He hates disobedience.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:52 am
by Eleventh Doctor
God can't stand the damage, so God is chained to that feeling by what? A force or necessity more powerful than Himself?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:55 am
by Miss Friendship
I wouldn't call love "chains" and more powerful then Himself. Love is also part of His nature. You can't separate the love from God, neither can you separate the hate for disobedience. Its just part of who He is as God.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:57 am
by Eleventh Doctor
So hate is part of God?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:24 pm
by Miss Friendship
Yes. To love righteousness means to hate sin. In the same way if you love children, you hate abortion.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:19 pm
by Eleventh Doctor
I just don't see God as hate, I'm sad you do.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:37 pm
by Miss Friendship
I actually don't view God that way at all.
I'm sad you have adopted the popular yet twisted view that God is only love and doesn't care about sin.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:45 pm
by Eleventh Doctor
I never said God is only love and doesn't care about sin, I only said God is not hate.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 1:48 pm
by Miss Friendship
I never said He is hate either. In fact I emphized the love of His nature, I just made it clear He hates sin. I'm not sure how that translates into God being hate.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:05 pm
by Eleventh Doctor
You said that as part of His nature God hates disobedience. I said I disagree.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:05 pm
by Miss Friendship
Well where does it come from then?
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:15 pm
by Eleventh Doctor
Hate comes from perversion of Gods nature. The phrase love the sinner hate the sin comes from Ghandi
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:22 pm
by Miss Friendship
You just called God perverted? Do you realize you are comparing God to sinful humanity? That is so twisted it makes me sick.
Re: The Great Gay Debate
Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:33 pm
by TigerShadow
He didn't call God perverted. He called hatred a perversion of God's nature, and therefore he does not believe that God hates sin.
I can't say I agree with that, though. If God doesn't hate sin, Eleventh, what does He feel about it? If sin is not anathema to Him, why did He turn His face away from Jesus on the cross such that Jesus cried out that He had been forsaken by the Father? Why did He feel the need to flood an entire planet if not because they were committing sins, which He cannot stand in His presence? If God doesn't hate sin, why did we need to be saved from it in order to be reconciled to Him in the first place?