The Apparel & Adornment of Women and Men

[John Henry]

What in your mind is acting like prostitutes? Showing any skin? Including the neck? I mean you have literally said you cannot look at a picture of a woman whose neck is exposed. Do women have to literally cover everything but their face? And why is leaving their face exposed okay? Could that tempt men too?

I must have exaggerated or something. A woman can expose her face and neck. Her hands and arms even to the elbow (though, depending on the case sometimes it is all right to wear shorter sleeves i.e. at home). Her legs even to the knee.

[Eleventh Doctor]

Why is okay to show up to the elbow? What makes that flesh okay but not the upper arm?

[John Henry]

How about dresses or shirts with no sleeves?

[TigerShadow]

What about them?

[John Henry]

They expose the body - whatcha call the body.

[Spoon]

So it's okay to expose hands and forearms but not upper arms?

[Eleventh Doctor]

They expose a part of the arm that is very similar to the lower part of the arm below the elbow that you are fine with being exposed.

[John Henry]

You know the body - such as chest, breasts, shoulders.

[Eleventh Doctor]

A shirt without sleeves does not expose the chest or breasts.

[John Henry]

Yes, but it exposes a certain part - though small. Okay you'll say this kind of word again: narrow minded, legalist, legalism, legalistic, Pharisee, scribe, lawyer, hypocrite, law-keeper. Say, how about breast-exposing clothes (though irrelevant to the previous).

[Eleventh Doctor]

You seem to have gotten all the words, no need to repeat.

Oh so question I asked earlier, what's wrong with dressing like a nun or monk?

[John Henry]

You seem to have gotten all the words, no need to repeat.

Oh so question I asked earlier, what's wrong with dressing like a nun or monk?

Not really wrong - there is a good intention behind that. However, I do not want exaggerate God's principles. For instance - the veiling mentioned in 1 Corinthians 11 - I don't think it means real veiling (maybe it did at that time, but not now). Because, the 15th verse tells us that the woman's hair is given to her for a covering.

[Eleventh Doctor]

So if 1 Corinthians 11 meant a real veil but has changed with the time couldn't that mean other parts have changed too?

[John Henry]

So that means men should cut their hair bald & women put a veil over their heads. Maybe I should emphasize that.

[Eleventh Doctor]

I think you're emphasizing enough already

[John Henry]

Okay, EleventhDoctor I was joking. Man, you never rest in your arguments - you tire a person down(whew!).

[Eleventh Doctor]

I figured you were joking that's why I added the smiley I can be funny from time to time

[Samantha14]

Wait so exposing five or less inches of your back is immodest, JH?
*refers to dancing topic*

[Renae]

So it's okay to expose hands and forearms but not upper arms?

I think the problem here is the amount of skin you are revealing. One guy told me that sometimes (only sometimes) its not exactly what you're revealing (ex. arms, legs, or belly) but how much you are revealing. He said that when guys see a lot of skin, it often turns them on.

[Spoon]

So then shorts and a t-shirt would be more inappropriate than pants and a tank top.