The E.R.K. (Emily Rules Klub)

Do you think Matthew is a great character? Absolutely hate Emily? This is the place to discuss AIO characters, from the old to the new!

Classify yourself below.

Emily lover
12
22%
Emily moderate
10
19%
ERK lover
8
15%
ERK moderate
6
11%
I just like contests
6
11%
I just like castles
12
22%
 
Total votes: 54

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Monica Stone wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:36 pm
We could possibly write the outline on a new forum on the SS. A Skype (or whatever, you name it) group chat could be more efficient and our group isn't too large. But again, I don't know if everybody would be willing to go beyond the SS. I'd need the feedback of each of the E.R.K. members (so post your thoughts!). Another downside of planning this all on the SS, an open forum, is that if someone were to share a Google doc link for so the E.R.K. members could write & edit, literally anybody who stumbled across the topic could hit the link & edit it. A SS stalker, a troll, anybody.

Again, I would love input & ideas. This sounds like fun if you guys are up to it.
Those are very true possibilities, personally I vote for a Skype chat. Also, we have 20 Pages!
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120 PAGES! \:D/
Monica Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:46 pm
I don't dislike all of the characterizations. Emily & Matthew usually are good. One thing in particular I remember loathing was Valerie, Jay, and Vance chanting about how they were "villains." *shudders* It's something I try to forget.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. But I think that for the most part, the characterizations in the mysteries are good.
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:45 pm
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:13 pm
Maybe we could do a collaboration fanfiction about Emily...would anyone here be interested? Perhaps we could try to get as close as possible to Let's Call the Whole Thing Off? I bet there are enough theories around here to do that (if there are no objections).
Polehaus53 & I have pretty solid predictions. I think I would have fun, but I'd need the input of other members to know if they're interested. If we wanted to try to get as close to "Let's Call the Whole Thing Off" as possible, it would probably make the most sense to write it as a script (akin to what Lee Acim did when he wrote a script for "Further from the Truth"). That would be a fun team effort thing. If we wanted to keep it to the SS, I'm not sure how to facilitate that. We made some kind of Skype group text (+a Google Doc or something) if we want to do it that way (and if everybody was comfortable). I haven't organized such a thing before, so I would love everybody's input on how we would facilitate such a thing if this is something everybody would want to do.
I'd be up for this! Somebody can start a new topic for it in the Episode Study section, and we can discuss the details.
Monica Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:46 pm
I love the E.R.K. haha (if you haven't noticed)! We gotta appreciate that it had a whole website active awhile back.
Ah, yes, https://emilyrulesklub.wordpress.com/. It's a fun website. I often wonder if it is possible to make it active again. We could provide articles to be posted on it!
Monica Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:46 pm
I'm trying to figure out something unique I could do with this klub for all the members. Something to rally everyone together into something fun, maybe. I dunno. I'll probably look back at all the past E.R.K. posts. If anybody has any ideas about something fun we could do with the klub, let me know!
I've actually recently looked back on almost all the past 120 pages of the E.R.K., and there are a lot of cool things the members did that I think would be fun to do! We can all draw Emily, organize the leadership of the E.R.K., hold an E.R.K. meeting, or discuss Emily (which we've already been doing). However, the majority of their activities involved battling the members of the K.R.E. Since there currently seems to be no active K.R.E. members, this may be difficult for us.
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Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
Monica Stone wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:46 pm
I don't dislike all of the characterizations. Emily & Matthew usually are good. One thing in particular I remember loathing was Valerie, Jay, and Vance chanting about how they were "villains." *shudders* It's something I try to forget.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. But I think that for the most part, the characterizations in the mysteries are good.
There were a few things that turned me off the book, but I'll probably end up giving it a second chance when I have the time. I split my time mainly between school, chores, and writing (on here and on my own), so I might read it over a weekend or something.
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Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
I'd be up for this! Somebody can start a new topic for it in the Episode Study section, and we can discuss the details.
Done. I posted the topic in the Gallery, which felt more fitting.
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Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
Ah, yes, https://emilyrulesklub.wordpress.com/. It's a fun website. I often wonder if it is possible to make it active again. We could provide articles to be posted on it!
The only way to revive it would be to contact Pound Foolish and ask for admin permissions for the site.
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Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
I've actually recently looked back on almost all the past 120 pages of the E.R.K., and there are a lot of cool things the members did that I think would be fun to do! We can all draw Emily, organize the leadership of the E.R.K., hold an E.R.K. meeting, or discuss Emily (which we've already been doing). However, the majority of their activities involved battling the members of the K.R.E. Since there currently seems to be no active K.R.E. members, this may be difficult for us.
We could do all of those things. That is, except for debating K.R.E. members. Emily is just too awesome to have any remaining haters 8)
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Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:32 pm
Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
I've actually recently looked back on almost all the past 120 pages of the E.R.K., and there are a lot of cool things the members did that I think would be fun to do! We can all draw Emily, organize the leadership of the E.R.K., hold an E.R.K. meeting, or discuss Emily (which we've already been doing). However, the majority of their activities involved battling the members of the K.R.E. Since there currently seems to be no active K.R.E. members, this may be difficult for us.
We could do all of those things. That is, except for debating K.R.E. members. Emily is just too awesome to have any remaining haters 8)
Yes! :clap: If a K.R.E. member was to come back, then they would have a hard time disliking Emily in light of her developments in recent episodes! And it should be fun to reenact the activities of old E.R.K. members!
Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 8:32 pm
Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:57 am
I'd be up for this! Somebody can start a new topic for it in the Episode Study section, and we can discuss the details.
Done. I posted the topic in the Gallery, which felt more fitting.
Great! I'm looking forward to working on it!
To keep the E.R.K. active while we work on that, I've got something we can discuss:

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Earlier this year, before "The Rydell Revelations" episodes were released, Nathan Hoobler stated that when Emily said strange things were happening in Odyssey at the end of "Further from the Truth", she was referring to the escape room incident, "...as well as a number of the mysteries in Clubhouse Magazine." This led to quite a bit of discussion on whether or not the stuff from Clubhouse should be considered canon. Some people worried that the Clubhouse mysteries (specifically the ones which involved Emily's Nemesis) would become major plot points in the episodes. Of course, everyone relaxed when the three-part episode was released and made no mention of the events in the magazine.

So, I thought I'd ask everyone (and this is something I've been wanting to discuss for a while), do you consider the Jones and Parker mysteries in Clubhouse Magazine to be connected in any way to the audio series?
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Polehaus53 wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 12:29 pm
So, I thought I'd ask everyone (and this is something I've been wanting to discuss for a while), do you consider the Jones and Parker mysteries in Clubhouse Magazine to be connected in any way to the audio series?
Oh man, I have strong feelings on this topic. I'm with Phil Lollar on this one; I do not think Clubhouse mysteries are canon, for several reasons. Firstly, Emily & Matthew's friendship has had great development over the years and most of the mysteries do not acknowledge that development. Some of the mysteries written this year and last feel as though they written about 2010 Emily & Matthew. In early 2020, we were still having mysteries that included Emily & Matthew as detective partners, despite the fact they had broken up months prior. You could argue that these mysteries take place awhile back and I could possibly accept that. But if that's the case, the timeline is so freakishly vague and you can only guess where the mini-mysteries may roughly fall between episodes.

Specifically regarding the Emily's Nemesis series...if it were canon, it would be too significant not to mention in the audio series. Emily's Nemesis™ is basically the Mysterious Voice™ but with no life-or-death peril. I haven't actually read them, but I assume they were possibly meant as fun stories with foreshadowing to the future.

There's one specific mystery that I want to address: the October 2019 mystery. It featured Emily, Morrie, & Dion. Emily & Morrie were flying a kite. Morrie asked Emily about Matthew leaving the detective agency, and she tries to avoid the conversation. Then, she stumbles unto a little mystery. It turns out Morrie destroyed a neighbor's roses to create a little mystery for Emily. Why? So Emily may be pushed to seek the help of Suzu. Like with the Emily's Nemesis™ stories, I do not see this story as canon, but I do see it as foreshadowing for future episodes.

What do you think?
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Monica Stone wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:24 pm
I'm with Phil Lollar on this one; I do not think Clubhouse mysteries are canon, for several reasons.
Did Phil Lollar state somewhere that they are not canon?

My answer would be both yes and no. While I generally do not consider them canon, I have noticed a few things in the mysteries that do tie in to the audio series. At the moment, I don't have access to the magazines I have, so I'll do my best to say what I know from memory:

Almost all of the monthly Jones and Parker mysteries in the 2018 and 2019 Clubhouse Magazines seemed to have an ongoing storyline: Matthew was avoiding Emily. For months! In the December 2018 issue, the February 2019 issue, the September 2018 issue, and the November 2018 issue, There are several others, but I can't remember Emily's narration would start out with something like, "Matthew has been avoiding me all summer." It would then show Emily solving a case by herself. Check out this quote from the Jones and Parker mystery in the December 2018 magazine:
Matthew had been avoiding mysteries lately―or possibly just avoiding me. Why the sudden change? I wondered as I followed him.
As you can imagine, I was quite intrigued by this. Why was Matthew avoiding Emily? Did something happen between them in a magazine I had missed? It drove me crazy.
It was on October 26, 2019, the day that "A Sacrificial Escape" aired on the radio (I didn't have the AIOC so I was hearing it for the first time), that everything made sense.
Matthew and Emily were in the escape room, trying to escape. Then came Matthew's line, "The truth is, I've been avoiding talking to you about this for a long time. But I need to just say it: I'm done." (Emphasis added :P) He went on to say that he was quitting the detective agency. That line made me jump. It now made perfect sense why he'd been avoiding her in the magazines! He was planning to quit the agency!
There might be some holes in this, but to me this makes sense.

Another thing: The AIO Club exclusive episode, "Failing to the Finish Line" introduces Eugene's lab assistant, Horus, who has a Hadley-Bassett-like clumsiness. Some fans thought that Horus' introduction to the show was pretty random. Not really. In the July 2014 issue of Clubhouse Magazine, Eugene says to Matthew and Emily that he has a catastrophe-causing assistant... named Horus! Coincidence? I don't think so. :noway:

Just so you know, I haven't been consistently receiving the magazines so I may have missed something, but as far as I can tell, all this proves that the Clubhouse mysteries sometimes can be considered canon. I usually really don't consider them to be, but these points are definitely something worth thinking about.
Monica Stone wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:24 pm
Firstly, Emily & Matthew's friendship has had great development over the years and most of the mysteries do not acknowledge that development. Some of the mysteries written this year and last feel as though they written about 2010 Emily & Matthew.
This may have something to do with the fact that the mysteries that appeared in Clubhouse this year were written in 2010. Clubhouse Magazine has recently been doing reruns of old Jones and Parker stories. For example, the April 2020 magazine contains a Jones and Parker mystery that first appeared in the January 2015 Clubhouse magazine. The Jones and Parker mystery in the July 2020 Clubhouse Magazine was in the July 2011 issue of Clubhouse Magazine.
Clubhouse Magazine has recently been featuring Jones and Parker mysteries that appeared in old magazines. They do write new ones every once in a while (such as the one in the October 2020 issue like you mentioned), but for the most part, it's just reruns. A lot of the Clubhouse Magazines I got in 2018-2019 featured reruns, too. Probably because Matthew has quit the detective agency.
Monica Stone wrote:
Wed Oct 07, 2020 3:24 pm
Specifically regarding the Emily's Nemesis series...if it were canon, it would be too significant not to mention in the audio series. Emily's Nemesis™ is basically the Mysterious Voice™ but with no life-or-death peril. I haven't actually read them, but I assume they were possibly meant as fun stories with foreshadowing to the future.
I agree with you on this. This doesn't quite line up with the audio series. Emily's Nemesis, (whom I suppose is Morrie?) only caused small amounts of trouble. Nothing life-threatening, just illegal (such as stealing people's mail). In the December 2018 issue, Matthew, Emily, and Suzu figured out his motive: They figure out that the nemesis is just trying to stump Emily to make her look bad. Huh? This does not line up at all with Morrie's motives in "The Rydell Revelations."



(By the way, stay tuned for my next post. I'm going to be holding an E.R.K. meeting, written similarly to the way our founder, Pound Foolish, did it. I'll be discussing past, present, and future activities for the E.R.K.!)
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Polehaus53 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:23 pm
Did Phil Lollar state somewhere that they are not canon?
In the AIOWiki podcast interview with him shortly before the release of "The Rydell Revelations", Phil Lollar said he didn't consider them canon. I believe Nathan Hoobler & Bob Hoose do, but he does not.
Polehaus53 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:23 pm
Almost all of the monthly Jones and Parker mysteries in the 2018 and 2019 Clubhouse Magazines seemed to have an ongoing storyline: Matthew was avoiding Emily. For months! In the December 2018 issue, the February 2019 issue, the September 2018 issue, and the November 2018 issue, There are several others, but I can't remember Emily's narration would start out with something like, "Matthew has been avoiding me all summer." It would then show Emily solving a case by herself. Check out this quote from the Jones and Parker mystery in the December 2018 magazine:
Matthew had been avoiding mysteries lately―or possibly just avoiding me. Why the sudden change? I wondered as I followed him.
As you can imagine, I was quite intrigued by this. Why was Matthew avoiding Emily? Did something happen between them in a magazine I had missed? It drove me crazy.
It was on October 26, 2019, the day that "A Sacrificial Escape" aired on the radio (I didn't have the AIOC so I was hearing it for the first time), that everything made sense.
Matthew and Emily were in the escape room, trying to escape. Then came Matthew's line, "The truth is, I've been avoiding talking to you about this for a long time. But I need to just say it: I'm done." (Emphasis added :P) He went on to say that he was quitting the detective agency. That line made me jump. It now made perfect sense why he'd been avoiding her in the magazines! He was planning to quit the agency!
There might be some holes in this, but to me this makes sense.
Wait, really? I had no idea! I have been a member of the AIOC since January 2019, but only started receiving Clubhouse magazine in September of that year, due to an address error. Woah! That's some awesome Clubhouse foreshadowing. I cannot imagine how satisfying and shocking and fitting Matthew's announcement in "A Sacrificial Escape" would have been if I, too, had read Clubhouse around that time. I heard the episode when it was released on the club on July 30, 2019 (the date is ingrained in my memory) and I was reeling because I didn't see it coming. It was easy to accept and it made sense character-wise because Emily and Matthew hadn't interacted in 1.5 years and episodes between focused on Matthew's love of tinkering and inventing ("Failing to the Finish Line" and "In a Sun-Scorched Land" in particular) but regardless, it shook me.
Polehaus53 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:23 pm
Clubhouse Magazine has recently been doing reruns of old Jones and Parker stories. For example, the April 2020 magazine contains a Jones and Parker mystery that first appeared in the January 2015 Clubhouse magazine. The Jones and Parker mystery in the July 2020 Clubhouse Magazine was in the July 2011 issue of Clubhouse Magazine.
Clubhouse Magazine has recently been featuring Jones and Parker mysteries that appeared in old magazines. They do write new ones every once in a while (such as the one in the October 2020 issue like you mentioned), but for the most part, it's just reruns. A lot of the Clubhouse Magazines I got in 2018-2019 featured reruns, too. Probably because Matthew has quit the detective agency.
Ah, re-runs, that makes sense. It felt so jarring to me when I read some of the 2020 issues, but that makes sense. I noticed alot of the mysteries recently have only featured Emily. It makes sense, but it also makes me ~sad.~ I feel the need to mention how much I love the December 2019 mystery. Emily was just having fun at the Parker's house and Emily & Matthew unintentionally stumble upon a mystery involving Matthew's "uncle" (who was mentioned in the GRC?!). It warmed my heart. It was lovely. I guess I pick and choose which mysteries I consider canon lol.
Polehaus53 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:23 pm
Emily's Nemesis, (whom I suppose is Morrie?) only caused small amounts of trouble. Nothing life-threatening, just illegal (such as stealing people's mail). In the December 2018 issue, Matthew, Emily, and Suzu figured out his motive: They figure out that the nemesis is just trying to stump Emily to make her look bad. Huh? This does not line up at all with Morrie's motives in "The Rydell Revelations."
Yes, I have heard about the contents of those mysteries, although I haven't actually read them. I could totally see the Nemesis's motivations aligning with Morrie's motivations on the actual audio show. Morrie was Moriarty to Emily's Sherlock and loved stumping her and testing her. It's a game to him ("It was just supposed to be games!") but he got personal enjoyment out of testing her. He may have wanted her to solve the mysteries, but he was content with simply toying with her. Sociopathic, yes, but that's kinda who Morrie is. I bet you future episodes will flesh out his motives & thought processes during his schemes. Just wait.
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Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:23 pm
(By the way, stay tuned for my next post. I'm going to be holding an E.R.K. meeting, written similarly to the way our founder, Pound Foolish, did it. I'll be discussing past, present, and future activities for the E.R.K.!)
Ooh, yes! Will you bring back the Emily anthem? ;)
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Hear ye, hear ye! This meeting of ERK is now in session. Since our President Pound Foolish is not here, Polehaus53 is presiding, and because our Vice President Aftershocker is not here, Monica Stone is vice-presiding. Please rise... Members, hands over hearts.

“Emily, Emily, we adore you, Emilyyyyyyyy
We shall love, thee foreverrrrrrr
Emilyyy-yy, Emilyyyyyyyyyy,
We shalt never abandon thee,
Emily, Emilyyyyyyyy
As the battle rag-es
Emilyyy-yy, Emilyyyyyyyyyyyyy
We shall look into the blood stained ru-ins
Emilyyy-yy, Emilyyyyyyyyyy
But we shall sand firm, shall stand firm,
Emilyyy-yy, Emilyyyyyyyyyyyy
Our guns and lives are at your feet,
Emilyyyy-yy, Emilyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
We love thee
We adore thee,
We take our hats off
And salute thee,
Emilyyy-yy, Emillllyyyyyyyyyyy, Em-uhhhhh-LEEEEEEEEE!”

Ahem. Now, there are some things about the anthem that need to be discussed but I’ll save that for another meeting. Fellow emilyophiles, there are quite a few things on the agenda today.

Two years. That is how long this klub went without someone writing on it. It’s horrifying. Shameful. Disgraceful. Since 2012, there had never been a year when the E.R.K. was not active. But let us not dwell on it. After a two-year hiatus, the E.R.K. has returned, thanks to Monica Stone. Let’s give her a round of applause, everyone! Now that we’ve got the E.R.K. back to its active status on the Soda Shop where it belongs, it is time to discuss its future. We are meeting here to discuss how to implement the past activities of the E.R.K. into our everyday posting on here.

I have just returned from a journey in which I went through (almost) ALL the 120 pages of the E.R.K. I have learned quite a lot of information about this klub. Some things we can do. Here are a few fun facts:
  • The E.R.K. official color is green. Our color used to be red but was switched to green after Pound Foolish suggested it be changed on Page 10. Excellent choice, PF!
  • The opposing klub, the K.R.E., used to be called the E.S.K. (Emily Stinks Klub), but it was changed at some point.
  • Wait a second, why did I just give a fun fact about K.R.E.? The K.R.E. is not fun, and its activities cannot be considered fact. Ignore the above fact... er, fiction.
  • From around pages 47-51 an epic Emily battle ensued between E.R.K. members and K.R.E. members. Definitely entertaining to read!
  • I also noticed that the E.R.K. regularly held contests, where all members drew pictures of Emily and Pound Foolish would judge them. Let me say, we had some talented members! Check out this Emily drawing by Samantha14, a loyal E.R.K. member:
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    Now then, too prove my loyalty, here is a picture I drew of her. :
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    (Note: This is the one I was telling you about a couple weeks ago, PF. It's the one that I had to make do with some makeshift color pencils, so it doesn't look quite like her... That and I'm not the best artist in the world. :P :lol: It's the scene that she asks "Is it wrong for kids to dream about what they want to do?" also, forgive how bad the picture quality is.. My phone hates me almost as much as I hate it. -_-)

I am suggesting we do some of these activities. I’ve stated before that battling/debating K.R.E. members was what made up the majority of the E.R.K.’s activities. This may be difficult for us to do, since there are currently no active K.R.E. members on the SS at the moment. Emily artwork would be fun, but I have no idea how to upload images from my computer to the SS and I can’t draw. If anyone can figure it out, let me know. Therefore, until then, I move that we continue do what we’ve been doing: discussing Emily! There are probably a ton of other things we can do, so let us hear some ideas.

Oh, and by the way, I also found a bunch of green tutus lying around the place. I don’t quite understand why the E.R.K. was so enthusiastic about them, but it was apparently tradition for members to wear them. Their official uniform. *Passes them out to everyone*

Another matter: We once had a castle. It played a prominent role in battles between E.R.K. and K.R.E. Sadly, it was demolished on page 115 by the enemy K.R.E. members. We are castleless. This is unacceptable. We must begin construction on a new one. All in favor?

There are a ton of other things we need to go through, such as the Emily anthem, leadership, and serving our cake, brownies and cookies, but it can wait until a future meeting. Thank you all for your time. This meeting adjourned. Don't forget your tutus.
And don't forget,
Emily RULES!
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Thank you, Polehaus! That was a very accurate representation of past E.R.K. posts! You did way more reading into the past than I about past events and meetings in the E.R.K. I read random posts here and there and had fun doing so, but you took it to the next level. :lol: You even brought back the pledge hehehe.

Activities, such as submitting art, would be fun. We obviously do not have to restrict activities to art (I cannot draw to save my life) but we could definitely brainstorm.

Since there aren't any active K.R.E. members, I think it would be fun if I played devil's advocate and tried to represent possible opposing arguments for y'all to refute. ;) Here's an argument:

If Emily is such a wonderful person, why did the show try to trick the listeners into thinking she kidnapped Suzu? Doesn't that show that the writers think poorly of her as a character?

Also, Phil Lollar said that Emily isn't the hero of "The Rydell Revelations, Parts 1-3." She reallyyy wanted to bring Morrie down and would do whatever necessary to do so. Emily isn't the hero, she is an obsessively vengeful person. You can't argue the writer, right?
Gah. These arguments trigger me.
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Polehaus53 wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:38 pm
Oh, and by the way, I also found a bunch of green tutus lying around the place. I don’t quite understand why the E.R.K. was so enthusiastic about them, but it was apparently tradition for members to wear them. Their official uniform. *Passes them out to everyone*
Interesting uniform. Especially since I can't envision Emily wearing a tutu! And come to think of it, I can't envision myself in one either! Here, you can have mine back. *shoves green tutu at Polehaus* And anyway, it was the wrong size.
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Another matter: We once had a castle. It played a prominent role in battles between E.R.K. and K.R.E. Sadly, it was demolished on page 115 by the enemy K.R.E. members. We are castleless. This is unacceptable. We must begin construction on a new one. All in favor?
Aye!
Hey, can we put in an escape room? :twisted:
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Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:53 am
Since there aren't any active K.R.E. members, I think it would be fun if I played devil's advocate and tried to represent possible opposing arguments for y'all to refute. ;) Here's an argument:
If Emily is such a wonderful person, why did the show try to trick the listeners into thinking she kidnapped Suzu? Doesn't that show that the writers think poorly of her as a character?
Until a K.R.E. member appears, that'll work! :yes:
I'd need time to do a longer examination. For now, I would say that just because the episode tried tricking listeners into thinking she had kidnapped Suzu doesn't necessarily mean the writers think poorly of her as a character. The episode uses that as a plot device. The listeners learn in the next episode that Emily did not kidnap Suzu. I mean, if the writers thought poorly of her as a character, why would they even have her in the show?
Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:53 am
Also, Phil Lollar said that Emily isn't the hero of "The Rydell Revelations, Parts 1-3." She reallyyy wanted to bring Morrie down and would do whatever necessary to do so. Emily isn't the hero, she is an obsessively vengeful person. You can't argue the writer, right?
This sounds familiar. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Phil Lollar state this in the AIOwiki Podcast? If so, I need to hear that part again. Uh... until then, I don't know what to say to that. :anxious:
These arguments really make you think. You make an excellent devil's advocate. Don't play it too hard, though. ;)
ASmouseInTheHouse wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:22 pm
Interesting uniform. Especially since I can't envision Emily wearing a tutu! And come to think of it, I can't envision myself in one either! Here, you can have mine back. *shoves green tutu at Polehaus* And anyway, it was the wrong size.
Oops, I should have asked you your size! What size would you need? Surely you can envision yourself in one!
ASmouseInTheHouse wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:22 pm
Aye!
Hey, can we put in an escape room? :twisted:
I also vote aye. That's two votes yes. What do the other members think?
Hmm. An escape room needs to be discussed. You aren't planning on locking us up in there and sucking out all the oxygen, are you? ;)
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Re: The E.R.K. (Emily Rules Klub)

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Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:54 pm
Until a K.R.E. member appears, that'll work! :yes:
I'd need time to do a longer examination. For now, I would say that just because the episode tried tricking listeners into thinking she had kidnapped Suzu doesn't necessarily mean the writers think poorly of her as a character. The episode uses that as a plot device. The listeners learn in the next episode that Emily did not kidnap Suzu. I mean, if the writers thought poorly of her as a character, why would they even have her in the show?
I think the K.R.E. has been defeated 8)

That's fair enough as an argument. ;) I realize when I said "the writers think poorly of her as a character" I meant "the writer's think poorly of her [moral] character." Big difference. Slipping out of my devil's advocate facade, here's my defense of Emily in the first part of TRR: First of all, Emily is flawed and we can't expect her to always make the right decisions. I think she went a little too far (following Suzu home and entering her house without permission was probably the greatest mistake she made), but that doesn't make her an overall bad person. SHE'S HUMAN. I've screwed up badly, Emily's screwed up, everybody has screwed up. But you can grow from your mistakes and Emily has done that in the past, and she can do it now (but lol I'd rather have the show focus on Morrie & Suzu's problematic actions than Emily's. But that's another topic for another time). My second point is subjective: although the show tried to confuse the audience and sway them into distrusting Emily, I wasn't convinced she was capable of kidnapping Suzu. Yes, she got obsessive about the case. Yes, she got heated with Suzu. But in her initial confrontation with Suzu she, although a little intense, was understanding. Case in point:

"Suzu, you don't have to be afraid!"
"Yes, it's alright, Suzu! I know he's your brother and I know you want to protect him...."
"She told me about your parents, and I'm really sorry about your mom..."

Doesn't sound like a kidnapper to me. Also, Emily isn't the only character that the three-parter tries to make the listener distrust. Morrie, Suzu, Mrs. Mado, Whit, Emily, and even Tasha have moments where the episodes have you question, "Can I trust them? Maybe they aren't as good (or bad) as I thought...." The three-parter makes it a point to make you suspicious of everyone. Focusing solely on Emily isn't exactly fair.Whoops, that became too long of a tangent, sorryyy!
Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:54 pm
Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:53 am
Also, Phil Lollar said that Emily isn't the hero of "The Rydell Revelations, Parts 1-3." She reallyyy wanted to bring Morrie down and would do whatever necessary to do so. Emily isn't the hero, she is an obsessively vengeful person. You can't argue the writer, right?
This sounds familiar. Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Phil Lollar state this in the AIOwiki Podcast? If so, I need to hear that part again. Uh... until then, I don't know what to say to that. :anxious:
These arguments really make you think. You make an excellent devil's advocate. Don't play it too hard, though. ;)
Phil argued that Emily is not the "hero" of the three-parter. He was adamantly arguing that Emily was reallyyy trying to bring Morrie down. He was emphatic on that point. He didn't use the term "obsessively vengeful person" though. That was my addition.
Why, thank you! Playing devil's advocate can be fun. Sometimes I mentally play devil's advocate to my own arguments to strengthen them. I love provoking thought, but if you don't really feel like going in-depth on my argument, that's fine. Whoops, I argue too hard, I suppose.
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ASmouseInTheHouse wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:22 pm
Interesting uniform. Especially since I can't envision Emily wearing a tutu! And come to think of it, I can't envision myself in one either! Here, you can have mine back. *shoves green tutu at Polehaus* And anyway, it was the wrong size.
Oops, I should have asked you your size! What size would you need? Surely you can envision yourself in one!
Goodness, I'm not a tutu-wearer; like ASmouseInTheHouse, I cannot envision myself in one either. I shall make brownies for you all instead. Or do you perhaps prefer chocolate chip cookies? ;)
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ASmouseInTheHouse wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 6:22 pm
Aye!
Hey, can we put in an escape room? :twisted:
I also vote aye. That's two votes yes. What do the other members think?
Hmm. An escape room needs to be discussed. You aren't planning on locking us up in there and sucking out all the oxygen, are you? ;)
For the sake of Emily, would be inconsiderate to install an escape room in this klub. Remember what happened last time she was in one? :noway:
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Re: The E.R.K. (Emily Rules Klub)

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Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:45 pm
Yes, she got obsessive about the case. Yes, she got heated with Suzu. But in her initial confrontation with Suzu she, although a little intense, was understanding. Case in point:

"Suzu, you don't have to be afraid!"
"Yes, it's alright, Suzu! I know he's your brother and I know you want to protect him...."
"She told me about your parents, and I'm really sorry about your mom..."

Doesn't sound like a kidnapper to me.
This has been an interesting 'argument' to read. (I would quote everything, but that would be a bit much) I don't even think it was intended for listeners to be tricked into thinking Emily kidnapped Suzu, I think that was more Morrie trying to trick Whit. That's my opinion, anyway. ;)
Polehaus53 wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:54 pm
Oops, I should have asked you your size! What size would you need?
Try size 1 x 10^-100. I'm sure you can find one.
But can't we just wear a green sweater or something?
Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:45 pm
For the sake of Emily, would be inconsiderate to install an escape room in this klub. Remember what happened last time she was in one? :noway:
Alright, alright.... :lol:
Monica Stone wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:45 pm
I shall make brownies for you all instead. Or do you perhaps prefer chocolate chip cookies? ;)
Hm, I'd have to go with both. Since the E.R.K. has always seemed to have an obsession with those two desserts, we should include a kitchen in the castle!
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