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by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:44 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

No, ruling the night sky is a figure of speech. The stars and moon are objects they cannot rule anything. They do not make rules about the night or command the night what to do. It is a figure of speech. But which time? Genesis has two creation accounts. An example which is not literal, which is fi...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:38 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

Why would they not have been recorded? We have so many writings from that time, why would this belief fall through the cracks until so much later? I don't consider your point valid since the Bible verses don't prove you right, my point is now just as valid, i.e. has just as much backing, as yours. ...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:35 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

Being present is not ruling the night sky. It is a figure of speech, i.e. not literal. Which account? There are two. I still think you don't know what literal means. In Psalms 23 David writes "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death" Do you think David was really walk...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:27 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

Re: Answers in Genesis, many people distrust that website's interpretations of Scripture, usually on the grounds of faulty science, so I wouldn't recommend it to people who are already argumentative as to what it says. Meanwhile, I'm genuinely curious, Eleventh—how do you fit the evolutionary cycle...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:20 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

It's highly unlikely that if any number of people believed something that it would have gone unwritten. And it is important to study what was written back then, the writers were closer to the times of Christ, the Apostles, and those to whom the Bible was written to directly. Also as I've said befor...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:18 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

Okay so please explain to me how the stars and moon literally rule the night sky. Which account of God creating them? Are the Psalms literal? I think all of those things are true about Scripture. When have carbon dating results been censored? And where are the studies that support the young earth t...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:06 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

You need to give me a definition of literally, all of our debates hing on you actually understanding what that word means and right now I don't think you do. I will answer your other questions when you define the word literally. in a literal manner or sense; exactly. "the driver took it litera...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:05 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

Eleventh Doctor wrote:No, I'm still saying the rapture won't happen and people aren't calling it by another name. I was giving reasons in my paragraph for why it isn't plainly obvious that there will be a rapture.
Oh. Too bad, I thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me or something.
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:47 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

Eleventh Doctor wrote:Thank you? I wrote out two paragraphs, are you saying you agree and that this isn't so obvious? Or something else?
Ummm...yeah. I believe the Rapture will one day take place, but you're right that others might call the rapture something else. Is this what you're talking about?
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:45 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

The moon and stars do not literally rule the night. You do not know what that word means, please define literal for me. I'm pretty sure Adam and Eve existed. Genesis is part of the Bible but it is poetry, its figurative and symbolic nature doesn't make it any less inspired or part of the Bible. Unl...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:21 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Once Saved always Saved?
Replies: 168
Views: 46511

Re: Once Saved always Saved?

-pops head in- Wodfamchocsod does not appear to be Catholic, and as a result he/she has no reason to accept the Catholic Church as anything somehow more intrinsically trustworthy than his/her own. Just because Catholics believe that the Catholic Church is infallible doesn't mean that every other Ch...
by Wodfamchocsod
Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:20 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

@Metal15: you're absolutely right. @11th Doc: yes, the moon and stars literally rule the night. Like Metal15 said, in exodus 20 it clearly states that it is literal. So...what do you think about Adam and Eve? The part in the Bible (the first couple chapters in fact) about Gods creation? If you don't...
by Wodfamchocsod
Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:55 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Once Saved always Saved?
Replies: 168
Views: 46511

Re: Once Saved always Saved?

Did you even read my post? Your not convincing me or anyone by saying this over and over again. Unless you can find some solid evidence and an infallible church to back you up, you are wrong. I have solid evidence. The Bible. Look up john 10:29. There are several churches that believe what I do. Ev...
by Wodfamchocsod
Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:51 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

So ( not that it matters) i believe that there will be a tribulation and a rapture. I believe that we will go through trials and the world is going to get pretty bad before God takes us out. But i also believe that after be are taken its going to get alot worse. I believe in the millennium and the ...
by Wodfamchocsod
Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:48 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

Duchess, I could not have done a better job myself. Indeed Old Earth views Genesis as more figurative than symbolic. No, it's not common knowledge A.D. started 2014 years after Jesus. Because we didn't have this calendar until roughly 800 years after Christ, so guessing how much time had passed bef...
by Wodfamchocsod
Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:02 am
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

Actually I don't know that, the Byzantine Empire for example was a golden age of Christian writing. Look up the Seven Ecumenical Councils, they took place during the so called Dark Age and are towering examples of Christian theological development. Do you really think that there were no major Chris...
by Wodfamchocsod
Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:59 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Poetry uses symbolism, which can still be true. Something doesn't need to be literal to be true. I believe in the flood. Some scholars have come up with 4,000 years but there's no evidence those genealogies are complete or that they're to be u...
by Wodfamchocsod
Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:54 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Once Saved always Saved?
Replies: 168
Views: 46511

Re: Once Saved always Saved?

Eleventh Doctor wrote:So what is the purpose of the Christian life?
My point exactly. I was being sarcastic.
Jehosophat, that's why Christ died for sinners.
by Wodfamchocsod
Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:36 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: Creationism or Evolutionism.
Replies: 275
Views: 71733

Re: Creationism or Evolutionism.

Why did God put Psalms or Proverbs in the Bible? Is there no use for the figurative or symbolic? Where do you get 4,000 years? Also Christ was born close to 2043 years ago, we don't know the specific date, and died 33 years after He was born. Solomon and David simply wrote in a different sense of p...
by Wodfamchocsod
Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:31 pm
Forum: The Chapel
Topic: The Rapture..
Replies: 173
Views: 44144

Re: The Rapture..

So Christianity languished for about 1,600 years after the New Testament was written and didn't write much of worth until the 1700s? I'm not denying God's Word I'm saying a thousand years is figurative, a literal thousand year kingdom was denounced as the heresy of chiliasm by the Nicene Creed. The...